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Offline Stephen Bailey

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Re: MCC open to VMCC and Now the TRF but not recipricated.
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2019, 07:08:02 pm »

 As Keith states, they do not get the other benefits of MCC membership.

Which are exactly?

Offline Jason Potts

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Re: MCC open to VMCC and Now the TRF but not recipricated.
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2019, 07:42:08 pm »
3 copies of Celia's Triple. I really enjoy reading these.

I like this club, haven't met any numpties or aholes. Every one I ever met has been welcoming and very helpful. No one has ever picked fault with my bike and I've never been ostracised because of what bike I ride. Unlike some classic bike clubs I could mention.

So that's why I'll remain a member and will actively encourage others to join too.

And I look forward to getting a NOTW email every week too which no other club does.

Keep the faith guys.

But I do think we should charge non-members a day membership fee when they enter our events. Just like they charge us for entering theirs.

Rant over  ;)

Offline Alastair Queen

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Re: MCC open to VMCC and Now the TRF but not recipricated.
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2019, 09:38:56 am »
NOTW this week has a para  regarding TRF entries, etc...it is for a trial {!} period only, and there are limitations regarding non-members....straight from the holy-of-holies...

Offline Lee Sample

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Re: MCC open to VMCC and Now the TRF but not recipricated.
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2019, 12:40:33 pm »
as someone who only really competes in the big three (i say compete with tongue in cheek, the ranger isn't all that competitive lol), I can agree with parts of both sides of the debate.

i think it is good that we are opening up entry to other clubs, as this will hopefully slow the dwindling numbers of entries.
from my perspective, i dont really mind that the other clubs charge us a fee to enter their events, as i probably wont enter them. but i can see that it could cause some to take issue that we don't charge a nominal membership fee for those clubs to do the same.

as i'm only a member of the MCCand my local MC, i dont have the problem with having two memberships that seem to do the same thing now, but if i did, i would probably be as miffed as Stephen, so i get his point.

I think that the best way ahead, would be to get the trial year out of the way as it is, and then look to either implement a small one day membership fee for other clubs, or negotiate a reciprocal agreement that they wont charge us - it's only fair after all.

cheers!

Lee

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Re: MCC open to VMCC and Now the TRF but not recipricated.
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2019, 01:31:16 pm »
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NEWS OF THE WEEK ending 14.09.2019

John Aley’s Informal News & Chat for MCC Members

Please Reply to: simon.woodall@themotorcyclingclub.org.uk

 

 

THIS WEEK   Last Saturday saw the Exec meet up, with muggins in the chair, as our esteemed leader – Dick Peachey – is unwell.   The meeting introduced two new/old faces, Keith Johnson who has been promoted to the role of Clerk-of-Course (Bikes) for the Exeter, and Phil Tucker, who has stepped up to the plate to become the new treasurer as Barbara Selkirk is stepping down from this role, with a transition period intended to be complete by the clubs financial year end at the end of November.   It was decided to add the TRF to the list of invited clubs for 2020.  Although the detail has yet to be thrashed out, the idea is that a TRF member gets to enter under the TRF banner for a year, but if he/she then wishes to continue to ride our events they would be expected to join the club.   TRF members cannot enter cars.

 

Of course, only MCC members get the NOTW....but there is no compulsion to read it.  [Seems 'Muggins' is a common name in club circles?]

As I posted below, this issue is being dealt with.  Note the provisos, and the limited entry rules [plus, no cars]...What happens after the one year trial period will depend on what arrangements might be made with 'invited' clubs?

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Re: MCC open to VMCC and Now the TRF but not recipricated.
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2019, 01:02:25 pm »
An interesting debate! I must say that I agree wholeheartedly with Mark G's comments.

Its important to bear in mind that the invitation to enter all classes is being extended to the TRF on a trial basis for one year i.e. 2020.


Apart from the fact that this has already started in 2019.

So Keith. I can enter the TRF Wessex Wanderer by being a member of only the MCC?

Offline Tim Kingham

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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2019, 11:21:26 am »
As a member of the MCC since the 60's and a member of the VMCC almost as long this really is a conundrum
I understand the numbers argument and the reasons why we keep event publicity to a low level
but there must be a level of advantage given to full members of the MCC or membership will wither on the branch
Perhaps one or more of these:
Giving reduced fee for members at entry or rather an increased fee for non members would seem to viable way the setting of the level would be a delicate task logic would decree that the premium would need to be £40 over 3 events
Reducing the number of events non members could enter to two per annum. NB counted at point of  entry not if they actually turn up and compete
Negotiating with the other clubs for reciprocal entry -difficult since often their  events are in sole control of sections
Restricting awards or making them eligible for just a separate award
Allowing entry per entrant on nonconsecutive years or for one year taster only

Offline Alastair Queen

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Re: MCC open to VMCC and Now the TRF but not recipricated.
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2019, 05:05:47 pm »

Allowing entry per entrant on nonconsecutive years or for one year taster only

From NOTW, report on Executioners meeting...

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Although the detail has yet to be thrashed out, the idea is that a TRF member gets to enter under the TRF banner for a year, but if he/she then wishes to continue to ride our events they would be expected to join the club.   

  I presume this applies to VMCC-sponsored entrants as well?

Offline Tony Ferrari (Nomad)

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Re: MCC open to VMCC and Now the TRF but not recipricated.
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2019, 01:59:08 pm »
As an aside I would point out that whilst the TRF are ACU affiliated and can issue licence codes, the events run by the TRF are non competitive so hard to offer a true reciprocal arrangement.

By the way I’m a TRF member of many years standing but I still joined the MCC when deciding to enter the Edinburgh as my first event (and my ACU licence is issued by another club entirely) but that’s just me  ;)