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Offline Mossberg

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Question from a rookie...
« on: January 30, 2019, 06:25:13 pm »
As I wrote in an earlier message, we are a couple of guys from Sweden that plan to join Lands Ends Trial this year. Licence issue solved thanks to Paul the secrtetary.
Some practical questions:
-We have the driving instruction from last year from e.g. Hamshire to Bridgewater and then on from there. Is that what we got or are there also signs, arrows, etc along the road? Or is the roadbook the navigation aid we get?
-We noticed there are new rules for LED light. Sorry, I have missed that, are they allowed? Are halogen spots allowed in the observed section, spots that are not road legal?

Offline Mark Gregg

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2019, 07:39:47 pm »
Great to see that your wanting to join the fun.

the road book is excellent and importantly accurate.

my 12 year old daughter managed to navigate me around on her very first attempt, the first time she saw or heard of the route book was on the drive to the start.

in addition to the road book organisers place small 200mm square white boards at most junctions. these will have a large L or R in the centre so you can find your way.. however the British public has a sense of humour so some of these boards disappear and some are swapped the most important thing is follow what it says in the book and you will not go wrong. when you get the book i suggest you read it all and understand it then let your passenger have it and he/she should read it all and highlight what to do at each section as what each class does may vary.. dont just follow the car in front or do what they do .. just do what it says in your book!

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2019, 09:59:27 pm »
Great Mark, thank you. Even if sonsonen, with a bit of humor, have moved the marks, hopefully 80% are still there.
About support from a passenger, we will go on bikes......  Are GPS allowed?

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2019, 10:11:06 pm »
GPS or anything else for that is allowed. However your best bet is following the Route Book....


You wont be able to plan the route accurately and there are many tracks and such that wont show up on some maps.  :)

Offline Tony Bishop

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2019, 11:18:25 pm »
As Stephen has said, follow the route book and you should be OK.
However there are plenty of guys ( and gals ) riding who will help and show you the way if you ask. We were all "rookies" once and you guys are making life doubly hard by having to ride on the wrong side of the road AND read the instructions in English.
Once you have received your start numbers post a request for assistance on the forum or ask Simon to place a request on NOTW.
However if you do find someone to help make sure you follow the route instructions yourself and don't just follow blindly, that way you can be reasonably confident that you will find your way but will also be learning how to do it alone next time.
Forget the GPS, it will only lead you into hell  :(  :'(

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2019, 08:18:00 am »
or ask Simon to place a request on NOTW.
Ulf and Gunnar, follow Tony's advice and ask if you can ride with some other on bike competitors. You can all take turns in navigating and they can give you some advice on what to expect in each section.

Whatever happens, don't follow other competitors without making sure you need to go in the same direction as them; stop and ask them if in doubt.  Some competitors will be returning from a section, and some will be following a different route from you, for example class O (numbers 500 onwards) and class R (numbers 700 onwards).

Offline Jason Potts

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2019, 07:22:02 pm »
Ulff, are you guys doing the main trial? If so which start location are you going for?

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2019, 11:36:09 pm »
Hi Ulf

just to add to the comments so far:

No problem with LED headlamps on bikes

I don't know if you guys have been to the UK before and travelled our roads. If not then you need to know that we tend to use "postcodes" in car satnavs, and that we also have a system of new Euro-style road signs you will recognise on larger roads but in the country on small roads we use old signs called fingerposts. (that's the bit in the routebook that says "dp Trevellas") What you'll actually see is a white post with a board on top pointing to the road in the direction of Trevellas saying "TREVELLAS 1"  ie if you go that way you'll find Trevellas in 1 mile. All our distances are in miles.

Use GPS and the postcode to get to your start point - the postcode is printed in the routebook (for example the start nearest London is POPHAM AIRFIELD which has a postcode SO21 3BD) - or use GoogleMaps to change the postcode to coordinates lat/long as you wish. Once at the start point use the routebook (sent to you in advance) for the ride to Bridgwater, from whichever start point you decide to use, following the instructions. For this part of the trial there won't be arrows nor markers but there are road signs as noted in the routebook (dp Andover, A303). It will be easy to hook up with someone at this stage to follow to Bridgwater.

Why not use GoogleMaps streetview to see the signage and what to look for.

Once you start again for the trial proper (from Bridgwater) the same applies (road signs etc) but there will also be markers at some junctions and coloured arrows offroad. Personally I follow the routebook and the markers act as backup.

Rick

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2019, 09:42:42 am »
Thank you everybody for all advice. It obvious that the navigation ainít that big deal I thought it was.
We shall consider to start in Cornwall instead of Popham Airfield, a good point with parking of car and trailer.

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2019, 10:12:28 am »
So we can all get a chance to say hello to you both on the trial, stick the Swedish flag on your jackets ;D.  It's ok when you are on your bike; it will have your numbers, but once you're walking about through 100 other bikers, we won't have a clue ;).

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2019, 01:30:01 pm »
Also the Swedish registration plates might be a clue   ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2019, 01:44:17 pm »
Also the Swedish registration plates might be a clue   ;D ;D ;D

 :D

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2019, 01:54:21 pm »
Also the Swedish registration plates might be a clue   ;D ;D ;D
Didn't see that one coming ;D

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2019, 03:28:56 pm »
Yes, we shall try to be visible...
Have sent in papers to ACU for license.
And now we shall sign up for Lands End.n
( I tried to upload a small photo , less than 100 kB, but "upload basked " was full"

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Re: Question from a rookie...
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2019, 07:54:21 pm »
Hi guys,
Hope you are getting more confident about riding the Lands End Trial now that you have had a chance to look at a route book and receive some advice from the likes of Ian, Paul and Rick who are all experienced competitors
There is something very important I would like to bring to your attention and that is to be aware of the signs in the road book advising you to be as quiet as possible.
The people that live in the areas along the route will have been advised that the trial is taking place and lots of them support the event and recognise that it has been run for many years and has become a local tradition.
Unfortunately there are also a lot who hate motorsport and would love the opportunity to have the event routed away from their houses or even banned completely.
Consequently, in the route book you will occasionally see the letters Q or even QQ which mean Quiet or Very Quiet. There will also be Q or QQ markers out by the side of the road as an additional warning.
Please make sure that when you see these you ride as quietly as possible on minimum throttle until well past the houses or farms, that way we can hopefully continue to use those routes in future events.
Have a good one.  ;D ;D ;D