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Offline Antony Moore

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« on: March 22, 2018, 08:02:09 pm »
Hi, I expect I should know this, but what defines the different colour categories? Am I right in assuming a white number card is a white category?

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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2018, 10:10:15 pm »
Hi.

It is the round disc that you put next to your competition number that is the "Category".

Every car must display a coloured disc 10cm in diameter as follows, depicting which class their vehicle belongs to:
Blue – Classes 1 & 2
White – Classes 3, 4 and 5
Yellow – Classes 6, & 7
Red – Class 8.

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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2018, 11:40:32 am »
love the video.....

so are motorbikes without a category?

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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2018, 09:30:12 pm »
Hi Tony,
We might be talking about two different things here. You mention a white “number” card.  All MCC competitors receive competition numbers which are black numbers upon a white card. For the first time upon the 2018 L.E. we have supplied 4 competition numbers to be displayed upon cars. These to be displayed as per Final Instructions – the two extra being fixed to the side of the vehicle.
Re the coloured discs which use to denote the class a competitor was in – have over recent events been phased out. True some vehicles still display them. It is believed that you know what Class you are in and what is demanded of you. The marshal/observer is only recording what each competitor does. It is not up to the marshal to know what class you are in or should be doing. If you stop in the wrong restart box or fail to stop where you should have, the Results team will pick this up. Years ago I stalled my escort in the Crackington Class 8 restart box and then completed the restart correctly – yep I got a fail for stopping where I should have not. Some of those marshals are hard men !
This is only offered as guide as opposed to the gospel and I stand to be corrected.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2018, 10:18:54 am »
There are different section starts for different categories on the blue hills  and Beggars roost sections.

I'm trying to figure out what category I'm in. I am in class B (solo motorcycles up to 450cc)

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Offline Alastair Queen

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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2018, 12:01:17 pm »
The route book will list what classes [not category...which is now irrelevant...see Jonathan Laver's post above] start where..and what classes,have  what re-start, if any.

As Jonathan says....the rules have always been quite clear....it is the driver's/rider's responsibility to know what class they are in....and identify what they have to do.
[Best to go through the Route Instructions beforehand...and hilight, or otherwise identify, which route deviations, which re-starts, which start lines, apply.....?

The coloured discs [must remove mine]....are used less now...and they referred to the particular group of classes a competitor was in.  Some events required some marshalls to be able to identify this. Thus, an Escort running in class 7 was distinguished from and Escort running in class 3.  I suspect this grouping of classes has become rather restrictive for some events, hence as Jonathan says, not required.  If they were required, then they would be provided, along with fitment instructions.

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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2018, 08:54:04 pm »
Hi Tony

class B bikes have no colour category - the reference to blue category is for easier start lines for class 1 and class 2 cars. You need to go through the route book and highlight anything that refers to "class B" or "all classes" as these will apply to you.

Don't worry too much about all the why's and wherefore's as most people cock it up somewhere especially on the first outing.

Enjoy the ride and the challenge and if you have any questions on the event don't hesitate to ask advice from fellow riders (probably best from fellow class B chaps - on Serows and the like) but not the Marshals as they can't help you whether to decide which restart you have or route to take. Study the route card and set up something on the bike to enable you to read the route and assess what-to-do-where at each section in the dark as well as in daylight. (see Jason Potts posts on here about route card readers)

For now, if you have any other questions, ask either the motorcycle pr Roger Bibbings (email address in the front of "Triple") or here and we'll help you out. We've all been there at some stage.....

As for restart lines on Beggars Roost and Blue Hills 2 you will be on the upper - ie most onerous one - in class B!

Rick

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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2018, 05:23:34 am »
Hi Rick, thanks for clearing that up....

cheers  Tony