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Title: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Paul K on October 15, 2019, 04:06:57 pm
I saw this on the internet and thought, that'd do well in an LDT, though, perhaps not with me riding it. Based on a Honda 350  twin.  I particularly like the knee armour between the header pipes  :D

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48903831191_1519c9ee5d_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48904037877_79f114c841_c.jpg)

Anyone else got any other good bikes?
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: david@whitepost.me.uk on October 15, 2019, 07:56:45 pm
Just got back from a trip along the TET to Tremp and back on these.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48828726461_a44ed1e900_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hoPZda) (https://flic.kr/p/2hoPZda)
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Jason Potts on October 16, 2019, 06:53:22 pm
I was looking at those Yamaha TW225's. They use the serow engine but have a fat rear tyre. Wasn't sure weather this would be a good thing or not.

Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Paul K on October 17, 2019, 04:50:28 pm
I was looking at those Yamaha TW225's. They use the serow engine but have a fat rear tyre. Wasn't sure weather this would be a good thing or not.
Clive Cook entered a parts bin special in the Lands End 2019, using a 14" TW125/200 rear wheel, see http://www.themotorcyclingclub.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=286.0 .  I don't know how effective the fat rear tyre is.
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Jason Potts on October 17, 2019, 06:48:52 pm
Yes I remember talking to this guy at the start at plusha. Nice chap, great looking bike. Love the RD tank.

I think he had a trail wing tyre on his. Much better looking tread pattern that the standard one fitted by yamaha.
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Stephen Bailey on October 17, 2019, 06:53:07 pm
I was looking at those Yamaha TW225's. They use the serow engine but have a fat rear tyre. Wasn't sure weather this would be a good thing or not.
Clive Cook entered a parts bin special in the Lands End 2019, using a 14" TW125/200 rear wheel, see http://www.themotorcyclingclub.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=286.0 .  I don't know how effective the fat rear tyre is.

Apparently he entered a Kawasaki Z400.... No award.....
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Jason Potts on October 17, 2019, 07:36:29 pm
It is a kawasaki z400 twin. And I think it was his fist event.

Wonder if he still has the bike and if he's doing the LE again this year.
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Stephen Bailey on October 18, 2019, 02:31:09 pm
It is a kawasaki z400 twin. And I think it was his fist event.

Wonder if he still has the bike and if he's doing the LE again this year.

Interesting.... Its got Honda Badges on the side panels...….
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Jason Potts on October 18, 2019, 06:56:52 pm
Think we are getting mixed up Steve. We were referring to the Kawasaki on Paul's link with the fat rear tyre and not the Honda pictured at the top of this thread.

I've reattached the link below

http://www.themotorcyclingclub.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=286.0

Rather confusingly it says Yamaha on the tank. Hahahaha
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Stephen Bailey on October 19, 2019, 03:44:52 pm
Think we are getting mixed up Steve. We were referring to the Kawasaki on Paul's link with the fat rear tyre and not the Honda pictured at the top of this thread.

I've reattached the link below

http://www.themotorcyclingclub.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=286.0

Rather confusingly it says Yamaha on the tank. Hahahaha

Yep....  :D     Mmmmmmm……...
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Jason Potts on November 05, 2019, 07:00:54 pm
Never seen one of these before. Spotted this on eBay.  A very classic looking version of the much loved serow.

Like the bling tank.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1997-JDM-Yamaha-Bronco-225-Chrome/273978087099?hash=item3fca5dd6bb:g:D1oAAOSwu-Nde4YS&redirect=mobile
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Stephen Bailey on November 06, 2019, 11:21:02 am
Should have kept making that......
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Paul K on January 19, 2020, 03:20:36 pm
A guarantee to get best time in the special tests, or end up in the undergrowth  :D. The original bike was a 1987 Yamaha XV920 with a 1999 XV1100 engine.  It’s fitted with a Yamaha XS650 front wheel, a modified XV535 rear hub, a XV750 fuel tank and custom alloy side panels.  It's got a kerb weight of 160 kg.  Tyres are TKC80 so permitted in the regs.  Built by a Danish guy, there’s more details at https://www.pipeburn.com/home/2019/07/18/supersized-yamaha-xt1100-by-slowbuilt.html

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49409222147_1c9d4f5870_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49409020356_40348bec35_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Paul Wheatley on January 19, 2020, 05:34:35 pm
That bike is a monster! I was going to say that's far too heavy for me to off-road...but it's about 8kgs lighter than my Royal Enfield 350!  :-X
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Jason Potts on April 20, 2020, 03:46:13 pm
I was just thinking how good would a Suzuki GT500 engine trials bike be when I came across this.

this looks very tasty.

(https://i.imgur.com/WZajrIX.png?1)
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Tim Kingham on April 20, 2020, 07:10:49 pm
Of the best (solo) bikes I have used
1. Unit Triumph 500 twin lightened to 300 lbs
2. Yamaha Serrow
3  SP370
4  Beta Alp
5 52 Triumph Trophy
6 Suzuki DR350
 Of the worst
98 Model 50 Norton
99 Bultaco Trials
100 Honda Trans Alp
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Jason Potts on April 20, 2020, 08:06:33 pm
The Bultaco in at 99  :o

Why so bad?
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Paul K on April 21, 2020, 08:07:11 am
I was just thinking how good would a Suzuki GT500 engine trials bike be when I came across this.
That does look nice.

Of the worst
98 Model 50 Norton
99 Bultaco Trials
100 Honda Trans Alp
I had a Bultaco Sherpa 250 from new.  It came as a kit to avoid purchase tax.  A lovely bike, good quality, excellent build and a terrific one day trials bike.  Number 1 for me.  And certainly better than my Greeves Anglian, though, I had used the Greeves for MCC trials as well as one day trials..

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49800608416_1420f011d9_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Jason Potts on April 21, 2020, 09:03:25 am
My preference is with a converted road bike for LDT's. (This is only my opinion). Smoother, better road manners, better seat and generally less fatiguing on the rider. The down side is that they aren't as good on the observed sections but if you get the weight down and some good fork's on the front you can get to the end.

I'm not very tall so all off road bikes are too tall for me anyway. ;)

I think you are definitely on the right path with that GS500 project Paul. I really like that.

Love the triumph twins, wish I could afford one.  :-[
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Paul K on April 22, 2020, 08:29:01 am
I think you are definitely on the right path with that GS500 project Paul. I really like that.
If I ever get to enter it in an event, you're welcome to take it for a spin  :D.
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Tim Kingham on April 22, 2020, 06:32:44 pm
The Bultaco sherpa was a good one day trials bike but its not a LET bike
Hard seat, uncomfortable, poor lights, no fuel capacity, slow need I say more...
and nothing nothing goes up those hills like a lowish compression Triumph unit bike
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Jason Potts on April 25, 2020, 11:12:19 am
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If I ever get to enter it in an event, you're welcome to take it for a spin  :D. 

That's very kind of you Paul. Not sure when i'll be out next though, going to be very busy for a while on the new house. When we finally get to move that is.

I've really missed the lands end this year. That's my favourite  ;)
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Paul K on May 16, 2020, 08:13:43 am
Fancy taking this beast up Simms or Tillerton?  It’s what Revival Cycles (USA) did with Royal Enfield’s new Interceptor 650.  A narrower wheel rim on the front and the job’s a good’un  ;D

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49900651377_967bc9a711.jpg)
It’s got Suzuki DR-Z forks, with upgraded springs, for increased travel and weight savings and shouldered alloy 18 x 3.5” wheels.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49900345791_51cc50b573_c.jpg)
There’s a description of the build at https://www.bikeexif.com/royal-enfield-interceptor-650-scrambler?omhide=true
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Tony Ferrari (Nomad) on June 06, 2020, 11:04:34 am
Looks lovely but might be a tad loud, especially on the night-time sections!
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Paul K on June 06, 2020, 03:22:23 pm
Just wear ear plugs  ;)
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Stephen Bailey on June 06, 2020, 04:25:44 pm
Just wear ear plugs  ;)

 :)
Title: Re: Long Distance Trials Bikes We Like
Post by: Alastair Queen on June 06, 2020, 04:31:12 pm
Just wear ear plugs  ;)

Or, simply, post boxes of them through the letterboxes of local residents?  [With compliments of MCC written on them, of course?  Plus,  a statement denying they are in fact, 2nd-hand?]

:)